Showing posts with label Critique. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Critique. Show all posts

Wednesday, June 6, 2018

Goldilocks Readers – too little, too much, or just right? by Leah St. James #amreading #amwriting

Several weeks ago, Margo bravely offered the reworked opening of her WIP (“On the Make,” Book 3 in her Brothers in Blue series) for some feedback.

I was the first to respond, and I questioned a couple things that confused me about the family dynamics. (Whose sons are they again???)

Jannine was next with some tough-love advice, including suggestions for obliterating info dumps.

Rolynn got stopped by some of the phrasing and character development and posed some questions to rethink the section.

Vonnie offered her version of the scene with some comedic elements.

And so it went.

It reminded me of the many committee meetings I’ve attended. You ask a question of a dozen people and get a dozen different answers. It’s not surprising in a meeting, and it’s not surprising from readers/writers either.

Just as each of us has a unique point a view, each of us has a unique “thing” we’re looking for in a book. 


We know, for example, that I love emotions and digging into relationships, so it wasn’t a surprise that I focused on the relationships in the scene.

Jannine likes “action, action, action,” so it makes sense that she suggested ways to bring more action to the scene.

What does intrigue me is that I didn’t necessarily see what my fellow Roses saw in the excerpt!

I didn’t get info dump at all from the scene. Introspection, yes, but I was completely hooked (although I did agree that Jannine’s suggestions were excellent!).

Similarly, I didn’t share Rolynn’s opinion of the main character (who had shown a lack of remorse over Husband No. 2’s death). I could absolutely see where she was coming from and how some would read it like that, but I was intrigued by the character’s reaction and just wanted to know more: Why isn’t she more upset about her husband’s death? Is she maybe (gasp) glad he’s dead? I was rooting for her without even knowing why or how she’d been widowed. (So maybe the task for Margo is to add one or two more elements that will endear the character to a reader—maybe a  tender exchange with one of the boys...something.)

Vonnie’s rewrite of the scene made me chuckle, and illustrated how a skilled writer can change the mood of a scene.

 



The varying reactions and suggestions made me ask myself: Is there a larger lesson here? What does it mean? 

Here's what I came up with.

It means, in this case, that Margo has a ton of suggestions to comb through to determine which are best for her project. :-) (Ultimately, she’ll have to satisfy her editor, who might have yet different ideas!)

It means that we shouldn’t despair when one reader loves the dark, grittiness of our story and another is  completely turned off. Or if one reader snaps up our romantic comedy and another calls it drivel. It’s normal to have a wide range of opinions. We are, I think, by nature Goldilocks readers.

But the biggest lesson to me is that as we craft our stories, we should each embrace our uniqueness. Yes, we need other sets of (skillful) eyes to help point out weaknesses, and we need to look at those suggestions with thick-skinned honesty. But we also need to trust our own voices and our own vision for the story. We need to own our stories and make them uniquely ours.

Once again I’m reminded how tricky and difficult this writing thing is! 


To my fellow 'Goldilocks-es':  Happy reading, happy writing!

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Leah writes stories of mystery and romance, good and evil, and the power of love. Learn more at LeahStJames.com, visit her on Facebook or check out her Pinterest boards where she pins books and videos she loves, along with recipes she'll probably never try and gardens she'll never plant. :-)

Thursday, September 21, 2017

Talking about critiquing by Barbara Edwards

Talking about critiquing.

I did say I’d share my experience so here It is.

My chapter talk turned out a little weird. 
Four people were in attendance. Instead of doing the formal talk I’d written I did a question and answer session. 

I asked why they wanted a CP. One member didn’t know anything about critiquing and was nervous about sharing her work. Another asked her how she expected to get past an editor? 

I had to go back to the basics. I explained you need rules like how often, how many pages, meeting online or in person, what do you want from the critique? An overview, grammar, dialogue/ plot or character focus?

What do you do if it doesn’t work for you? 


The end result was the four of us are going to start a group. 

We’ll share the pages on-line then meet next month to discuss the critiques.
I’m hoping it is productive. If not, then no harm no foul.


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Thursday, September 7, 2017

Critiquing is work by Barbara Edwards and I need help


I made the big mistake of offering to give a talk on critiquing for my local Romance Writers’ chapter. When I say it was a mistake I mean I didn’t think it through.

I’ve given a similar talk several times over the years and figured I’d do a little tweaking and Voila! there it would be.

Well, I pulled out the old info and found that times have changed. Most of us are online and thus so is our critiquing. 

The rules need to be changed, updated, brought  on-line. So here I am in the midst of a pile of pages that are out-dated.


I need help.

What do you suggest I say to bring my listeners into the 21st century?

I can talk about finding a partner, forming a group, but hesitate to give advise about on-line exchanges. I have two lovely friends who I’d love to critique with but am unsure how to go.

So again, what do you suggest?

I appreciate any help you can offer.

I’m giving my talk in the 16th and will share my results on my next blog.

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Monday, June 27, 2016

How To Get the Most Out of a Writer's Workshop by Betsy Ashton

Once again, I'm back from a stimulating week at Tinker Mountain Writers Workshop, where my brain and my writing were squished through a wringer. Here are the lessons I learned. Hopefully, these will help the next writer enjoy a week-long retreat somewhere. And thanks to Pinckney Benedict for a fantastic week and for the idea to use lists in our writing. This one's for you, Pinckney.

1. No matter how many times you reworked your manuscript before you submitted it, the teacher and fellow workshop participants will read it as a first draft. They will call it a first draft.

2. Accept that fact and don't argue. Realize that they want to help you become a better writer.

3. Read every manuscript as soon as you receive it. Usually, manuscripts arrive in email a week or two before the actual workshop begins. Don't make any marks on the manuscript at this time. Just read it.

4. Reread every manuscript just before you arrive. Now is the time to mark the heck out of it.

5. Highlight grammos and typos. There will be plenty, but you don't want to waste instructor time talking about them. Ditto, mark word usage. I circle repeated words on a page and draw lines between them.

6. Mark anything that doesn't make sense. Now you're reading like a writer. Look for head hopping, omissions, too much description that doesn't advance the story, etc.

7. Mark everything that is really good. The writer needs to know what you liked. Tell the writer you want to read more than what was submitted, but only if you really liked the voice.

8. Before the first session begins, check your egos at the door. Remember, writers are people first. If you begin your critique with positive statements (I like what George wrote when he eviscerated the dragon with a toothpick), anything else you say will find receptive ears. (Even if you can't imagine a toothpick sharp enough to gut a dragon.)

9. Continue to check your egos at the door every morning. The longer the workshop goes, the deeper the critiques become.

10. When you are being critiqued, keep your mouth shut. Try and keep all expression off your face and refrain from gesturing, grunting, nodding, etc.

11. Be kind when you are critiquing, but be honest.

12. Accept the fact that all members of the workshop have come to learn, not to grandstand. You are all students together. The instructor wants you to take away suggestions to improve your work. Your fellow classmates do the same.

13. Bond with the members over meals. There is no better way to get to know people than over meals. Sit with your classmates at least once a day. Sit with people in other workshops at different times.

14. Never come to class unprepared. You disrespect your fellow writers when you are not as ready to discuss their work as they are when they discuss yours.

15. Turn off your smart phones and smart watches. Nothing annoys people more than someone constantly checking a phone or watch. It tells the other writers that they are not as important or interesting than something on your wrist. You're not millennials, for God's sake.

16. Have fun.

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Betsy Ashton is the author of Mad Max, Unintended Consequences, and Uncharted Territory, A Mad Max Mystery, now available at Amazon and Barnes and Noble. I'm really excited that the trade paper edition of Uncharted Territory was released this week. Please follow me on my website, on Twitter, Facebook and Goodreads.

Sunday, June 21, 2015

Critique? Who? Me? By Barbara Edwards #MFRW #MyAHAshare

Critiquing is one of those skills that writers both hate and love. A good critique is worth its weight in gold. A poor critique can shatter a tender ego and put the writer into a tailspin.
How do I know? I’ve been on the receiving end of both. 
I belonged to a wonderful group  of five writers who met weekly for coffee and to exchange pages. The minimum was ten, but more could be added if someone had a good week. We always went forward. The chapters that were critiqued might be read as a whole when the manuscript was done. It kept us inspired. We did get published. Then I had to move to another state. Working on-line didn’t happen. 
The destructive critique came from a writing teacher. She checked my weekly offerings and then told me that I had no talent and should write for my own benefit. Cruel? Sure, but I’ve learned many people can be cruel. It took me years to recover from that blow.
  I’ve been without a critique partner. I think that after awhile I felt like I didn’t need one. I have books published, my editors like my work, and I’m comfortable with what I do. 
That last was the signal to me that I needed something. I looked at my latest mss and wasn’t satisfied anymore. I wanted to ask a friend to read it, but I realized I wanted more than a single view. Friends say they like it. Family always loves it. Friends don’t want to hurt your feelings. I need a critique.
This week I took the time from writing to attend a Romance Writers of America on-line class on how to critique and how to find a good critique partner. (Classes like this are a major benefit of belonging to RWA.) I happened to see a few people from RWA who were also searching. I contacted them and the experiment is in progress.
My first mistake according to the class is I wasn’t clear what I wanted from them and what I could offer in return. This is not a one-way street. If you don’t feel like an equal partner, the effort won’t last over time. I’m not talking about the excited, “Can you please look this love? I got a call from an editor.” I’m talking about the work that comes back with so much to change its not your any more or the consistent ‘there’s nothing to fix.”
Plan to exchange pages on a regular basis. 
Oh my, the speaker gave a great list of things to think about requesting. I’m not
including it because  it’s really geared to each writer. What I need might include grammar checks and plot flow, while you might need character consistency and goals. That’s why being clear helps.

I should add I was the Kiss of Death Chapter's original critique co-ordinator. I've judged contests both sate and national for 20 years. I've done classes on critiquing. I should know all this, but like everyone else, I forget.

I joined a Facebook group that is forming named Authors Critique Group. 


I’m not sure if the people I’m with will work out. I hope so. It can be discouraging and time-consuming, but I’m looking for the gold ring at the end of the ride.

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