tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post7294243248125751407..comments2024-03-27T01:07:03.944-04:00Comments on The Roses of Prose: Working with a Critique Partner by Jannine GallantAlison Hendersonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12725250883303287946noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-42483012076847537352015-02-03T10:21:38.079-05:002015-02-03T10:21:38.079-05:00Diane, yep, it's important to find someone oka...Diane, yep, it's important to find someone okay with the amount of output you're going to produce. Hope you can find a good match!Jannine Gallanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01047728297429025804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-31051317225616474382015-02-03T08:41:33.546-05:002015-02-03T08:41:33.546-05:00Jannine & Margo, you are so lucky to have foun...Jannine & Margo, you are so lucky to have found a great relationship. I've been in a crit group & with a single critiquer. I'm the faster writer. She has great insight but let's "life" rule. I need someone who's as serious about writing as I am.Diane Burtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03754105332297068271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-50622423734360482122015-02-02T23:31:45.150-05:002015-02-02T23:31:45.150-05:00Thanks Maureen!
That must be interesting, Leah. I...Thanks Maureen!<br /><br />That must be interesting, Leah. I can't even imagine...<br />Jannine Gallanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01047728297429025804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-52642543714813326732015-02-02T19:19:42.756-05:002015-02-02T19:19:42.756-05:00I'm with Rolynn...jealous! :-) Actually, my CP...I'm with Rolynn...jealous! :-) Actually, my CP is my husband, which makes ours a double marriage! He's a brilliant plotter (which I am not). As far as writing craft, he'll pick up that things just don't read right in a particular scene or section. (Keeps me on my toes!) Great post, Jannine.Leah St. Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11004006100786260893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-39692934473342511142015-02-02T18:58:08.583-05:002015-02-02T18:58:08.583-05:00Great insights! I agree, It's wonderful to ha...Great insights! I agree, It's wonderful to have a good critique partner.Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03785560971517152290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-65007422745391129372015-02-02T15:47:20.209-05:002015-02-02T15:47:20.209-05:00Good to know, Liz! Every time I send off a manuscr...Good to know, Liz! Every time I send off a manuscript that looks like it's bleeding internally, I wonder if this will be the one to tip her over the edge! LOLJannine Gallanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01047728297429025804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-49202519370567356082015-02-02T15:20:41.065-05:002015-02-02T15:20:41.065-05:00I've had critique partners in the past and can...I've had critique partners in the past and can't even begin to say how helpful they were. The nicest thing is that they're still friends.Liz Flahertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794565644883272260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-90895931056041931222015-02-02T13:10:01.142-05:002015-02-02T13:10:01.142-05:00Jana, we don't do chapter by chapter critiques...Jana, we don't do chapter by chapter critiques. Although, I'm starting to wonder if that might work better. Right now we critique the whole book after the first draft. The big picture issues come into play in a huge way. And we also line edit at the same time. You might give it a try if you can find someone willing.<br /><br />Thanks, Alison. I'm really glad I helped you. And I owe you BIG TIME for all my book covers. I'm happy to edit for you any time!Jannine Gallanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01047728297429025804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-35557071555911659372015-02-02T13:03:04.111-05:002015-02-02T13:03:04.111-05:00Vonnie, sounds like your arrangement works. Some p...Vonnie, sounds like your arrangement works. Some people are better at seeing the big picture. Some are more detail oriented. Great that you get both!<br /><br />Susan, Margo and I got to know each other when we both wrote stories for the same multi-author series. We realized our styles meshed. Maybe ask on some of the author loops to see if anyone is looking for a CP. Just take some time to get to know them before committing to make sure you'll be compatible.Jannine Gallanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01047728297429025804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-70728052146002418412015-02-02T12:56:59.248-05:002015-02-02T12:56:59.248-05:00I worked with a small critique group once, and the...I worked with a small critique group once, and the leader taught me about POV - worth every minute I spent listening to beginners read aloud. Later I had a lovely, unpublished critique partner who wrote a completely different genre - not much help there. The first time I actually benefited from working with another writer was having you critique/edit Unwritten Rules. I learned a HUGE amount I should already have known. Margo is lucky to have you!! Alison Hendersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12725250883303287946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-66801260820990097332015-02-02T12:43:13.748-05:002015-02-02T12:43:13.748-05:00Jannine, you and Margo are lucky to have each othe...Jannine, you and Margo are lucky to have each other. I have some friends that I can offer pieces of my novels to, usually the beginning, but not chapter by chapter. Continued good luck to the two of you!Jana Richardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16624650840243322617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-34261737565434811822015-02-02T12:14:28.561-05:002015-02-02T12:14:28.561-05:00All that you say is true and good advice. I need t...All that you say is true and good advice. I need to find a new CP for my next cozy mystery/Southern Gothic. Any takers? Thanks Jannine!Susan Coryellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04700818086229953333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-9386311805165739492015-02-02T12:08:43.583-05:002015-02-02T12:08:43.583-05:00I have two CP's. One sees the overall chapter ...I have two CP's. One sees the overall chapter I send. The other sees the details within the chapter, like repeated words and my love of commas. I write faster than they do and feel bad sending them a chapter every few days. But their home lives are different. They have kids in school or grandchildren they often watch. But they've both helped me to grow as a writer.Vonnie Davis ~ Romance Authorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07360480832587538895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-51852715226511822172015-02-02T11:39:19.945-05:002015-02-02T11:39:19.945-05:00Wow, Betsy, what an awful experience. I haven'...Wow, Betsy, what an awful experience. I haven't tried a group setting for critiques. With an individual, you can vet each other first to decide if you're going to be compatible. Hope you have better luck in the future.<br /><br />Barb, why not try working online with one of your old group if you can't find anyone locally. You don't really need to be face to face to work together!<br />Jannine Gallanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01047728297429025804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-48715479706291789682015-02-02T11:29:56.577-05:002015-02-02T11:29:56.577-05:00Congratulations to both of you. I envy you. i lost...Congratulations to both of you. I envy you. i lost my critique group when I moved back to Ct and haven't found anyone else. I've tried but I guess I want the wonderful people I had there.<br />Times do change.Barbara Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10379534828904059584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-74057022515226944992015-02-02T11:23:17.527-05:002015-02-02T11:23:17.527-05:00My current CP hasn't published anything and is...My current CP hasn't published anything and is learning the craft of writing. He's a terrific reader, though, and doesn't let anything get past him.<br /><br />I was in a small critique group four years ago. We had one hard and fast rule: Check your ego at the door. I left the group after one year when a trusted member told me my writing was "for shit" and I was wasting her time. She completely lost it, screaming at me, calling me names, etc. The two men in the group sat by and let the women have at it. When she fled the room in tears, I quietly packed up and left. I never went back.Betsy Ashtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06871010122475160477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-655100132563626522015-02-02T10:50:57.118-05:002015-02-02T10:50:57.118-05:00Rolynn, we've become great friends over the la...Rolynn, we've become great friends over the last few years. No, we're miles apart. Me--California. Margo--Michigan. Everything is done online, but we chat almost daily via email. Keeps the ideas flowing and the support strong.Jannine Gallanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01047728297429025804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-46213879672017638762015-02-02T10:48:23.331-05:002015-02-02T10:48:23.331-05:00Ha, Margo! I told you it was all good!
Kathy, I&#...Ha, Margo! I told you it was all good!<br /><br />Kathy, I've thought about multiple CP's for different viewpoints. But the time factor is too daunting, and my arrangement with Margo works.Jannine Gallanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01047728297429025804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-9618368652671084682015-02-02T10:37:41.355-05:002015-02-02T10:37:41.355-05:00Okay, now I'm jealous! You two sound like a p...Okay, now I'm jealous! You two sound like a perfect complimentary match. You have learned how to nurture the best out of each other...and it sounds like, over time, the relationship has deepened. Do you live close to each other (and/or meet often), or is this all done online? Rolynn Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09504770204968969467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-87827919483873673952015-02-02T10:29:41.989-05:002015-02-02T10:29:41.989-05:00Well said, Janine. I have several CPs and each one...Well said, Janine. I have several CPs and each one offers something completely different from the others. It's truly amazing. CPs are a must in bettering oneself as a writer.<br />Kathy L Wheelerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14384045793607239512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9023937099212820339.post-86327744482064250682015-02-02T08:36:15.111-05:002015-02-02T08:36:15.111-05:00Can I open my eyes yet? Just kidding. I think you ...Can I open my eyes yet? Just kidding. I think you pretty much nailed it, Jannine. Cooperation and compromise are big have to haves, too. Also, like us, someone to listen (without judging) when we need to vent about anything and everything. If I end up reading more than you, so be it. You have the tech savvy I can, and have, put to good use. Oh, and, you're welcome. My thanks to you, too.Margo Hoornstrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00036077481652050799noreply@blogger.com